Catholic priests in Poland burn Harry Potter books because of magic

55563349_2545076778835729_4074967805399662592_nThis story came out today from Poland. Even the fantasy of magic is not tolerated, because it has the dreaded appearance of polytheism. What makes it laughable is that this is happening while the Catholic Church is being shaken by endless scandals of sexual abuse. It also reminds us of the recent news of Catholic authorities getting rid of evidence relating to said abuse. But the Catholic Church ought to know something: It is too late. Tolkien was a Catholic long ago and mixed Paganism with Christianity in his famous novels, which have since inspired much imitation. Now society is changing and your domination is waning. JK Rowling will not burn in Hell eternally nor will the children & adults who read here works. Accept that paganism is returning without envious paranoia and rejoice that it won’t reciprocate for past crusades in like kind!

9 thoughts on “Catholic priests in Poland burn Harry Potter books because of magic

  1. K

    I thought that sort of thing was mostly done by fundamentalist Protestants in America. I find this sort of thing funny. I am happy to hear about this. It just makes them seem even more ridiculous than they were before. The Catholic hierarchy is so out of touch and so corrupt that it has lost credibility even with its own followers. Going after fake problems while ignoring real ones is a common sign of terminal decline.

    The type of low church Protestantism I grew up around sees Catholic rituals and ceremonies as “magic” or “occult” in nature. You can find a ton of writing and insane ranting on the subject of the evil magical rituals of the Papists by fundamentalists. I remember there being suspicion of the rituals and ceremonies of the Mormons as well.

    I remember attending a Catholic baptism ceremony when I was a kid. My uncle married a Catholic woman. One small controversy that caused is that he allowed my cousin to be baptized in a Catholic ceremony(because his in-laws wanted it). I remember several people in my family grumbling about it, even some that also attended it. One of them was horrified by the incense and the image of Mary that was prominent in the church. The whole ritual “didn’t feel right” to them. That same relative actually ended up becoming a holy roller. If you are not familiar with those, they are those Pentecostals that jump around, babble, and shout about Jesus. They have no real order of ceremonies or rituals, they just play modern styles of music or shout and roll around. These same people go around and accuse others of being possessed.

    I like to run social experiments and mess with people. One of the things I have done a few times with Christians is take a ritual described in the Bible and talk about it without mentioning where it came from and removing clues as to its context. Read Numbers 5:11-31 for the full ritual. I took the basic process and described it, telling my Christian relative that it was a magic ritual for a married man suspecting his wife of adultery that I read about it in one of my books. This particular relative knew at the time that I was not a Christian and had a vague knowledge of my actual beliefs. So when I said “one of my books”, no doubt they conjured up all sorts evil books and dark grimoires in their mind, probably bound in human skin and written in blood too. Keep in mind, the context here is adultery with no other evidence. The obvious context of the Numbers 5 passage is that the man does not believe his wife is pregnant by him, perhaps the timing was off and he was absent for a while. So this is a curse on the woman and can cause an abortion. My Christian relative was horrified by this and actually said that I was describing Satanic witchcraft. Before they could run off, I told them to calm down, I actually got it from the Bible. That got their attention, and they started to loudly deny that the Bible had witchcraft in it. I told them where to find that passage, and told them to read it and prove me wrong. The look on their face when they looked it up and found it was priceless.

    Genesis 30 is also great to know. Not as lurid because there is no adultery, cursing, or magical abortion involved, but it is obviously describing what would be called witchcraft and sympathetic magic in two separate episodes. Rachel wanting Leah’s mandrakes is a short episode, but makes sense if you look up what was believed about mandrakes. They were among other things thought to promote the conception of children and were used in magic for that purpose. Rachel was not having children and wanted them, hence the mandrakes. The literal Hebrew for what got translated as “mandrake” gives a clear indication of what the Hebrews thought of the plant, and it also occurs in the Song of Solomon. Genesis 30 also has a strange episode where Jacob uses sympathetic magic to produce banded and speckled sheep. This is part of yet another incident where Jacob cheats a relative out of something for his own benefit(he previously cheated his father and brother, here it is his uncle), so if you want to reverse their moralizing about other people’s myths, this is a story to remember. What is even more telling is that Jacob’s magic ritual in this instance has no mention of Yahweh, El, Shaddai, Elohim, or any other divine title as being involved. It just works because it is assumed to, no explanation needed.

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    1. Melas the Hellene Post author

      Thanks for sharing the useful information and the amusing story. What I gather from it all is that Christians fall into two categories with regards to magic: those who believe only Jesus and Yahweh can do it while nobody else should/could, and those who are so blindly spiritual with fundamentalism that they can’t see through magic in the bible itself. Isn’t Protestantism such a contradictory species of belief? It attempts to purify Christianity so much but this ends up spoiling it altogether. Sometimes I am torn between the dilemma of admiring the Pagan elements of Catholicism or admiring the Protestant subversion that created secularism & a new search for spirituality.

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      1. K

        There is actually a long history of Christian magic, though they did not usually call it that to avoid bad connotations. Same with Jewish and Islamic magic. A lot of that Abrahamic magic tradition was based on legends about how Solomon was given a ring and incantations by the archangels(or Yahweh himself) that could control spirits and demons. Stories say that even the temple in Jerusalem was built using this power over demons. For Jews, this is not so much a problem because they have a very different view of demons than Christians do. There are early Christian gnostic texts that turn this around and depict Solomon as an evil sorcerer.

        Protestantism revitalized Christianity just when it was losing its vitality. That is what I think about it. I am not thankful to Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, or any of the others. The reason I brought up that common view of Catholicism is to show that the suspicion that Christianity creates in calling everyone else’s rituals “witchcraft” often ends up aimed at other Christians. Because of the Deuteronomist’s voice in particular, Christianity has had many mass reactions against ritual and symbol. I remember that post on Gangleri’s Grove about that Catholic priest that expressed his desire to smash a statue of Mary. Once you absorb the words of the Bible, a statue of Mary is just another idol to smash. Christianity is subversive even against itself.

        Even before the Christianity, the prophets were subversive against the Jewish religion of the day. From the position of an iconoclastic prophet, one can criticize the “establishment” no matter what it does or what reforms are made. If there is no issue, one can be made. Any ambitious low level cleric or would-be demagogue could wear the prophetic mantle. The Old Testament itself mentions competing prophets claiming all sorts of things all the time. The prophetic books mention these competitors and accuse them of not being true prophets. No doubt these competitors called the others frauds, including the sources of our canonical prophetical books. The cynical attitude of the people toward prophets is mentioned often, to the point where some passages condemn prophets entirely. One even says that they are madmen that need to be locked up.

        If the Christians see any tradition, even a Christianized one, in my opinion it is only a matter of time before they want to attack it. There is this constant drive, just like with the old prophets, to show one’s greater morality and purity. They like to find things to complain about for that purpose. The whole thing reminds me very much of some modern day activists, the ones called SJWs. Children’s books about witches and wizards just give them something to attack.

        With Catholicism, the laypeople will tend toward a kind of polytheism or folk religion interlaced with Catholicism unless constantly tended by a priest steering them toward orthodoxy. In practice the priests tolerate many things if it keeps the flock satisfied and attending. That is my impression anyway, in many places that is how it works. One of the things that Protestantism did was drive the Catholic church toward a greater emphasis on orthodoxy and on the Bible. Early Protestant critics attacked the half pagan nature of Catholic practices of that time. Everywhere Protestantism has spread, it tries to stamp out the de-facto folk religion of the people in the area. Scotland and Ireland in particular are great examples of this.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edern_ap_Nudd

        Read the part about the churches dedicated to him. Edern is the brother of Gwyn ap Nudd, a Celtic(Welsh specifically) god. It is obvious what was going on; reverence for these gods continued in insular Celtic Christianity. Protestantism(Presbyterians in particular) sought to stamp this out as is spread in the British Isles, and it succeeded in much of Scotland.

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    1. Melas the Hellene Post author

      Certainly. Everyone else but them is going to hell forever, is it not so? And I hate when they indoctrinate foreign minorities to act on their behalf, as if that constitutes the good kind of diversity that would justify their domination and proselytism.

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